I was recently a guest on the It Depends podcast, hosted by Matt Healey and Tenille Moselen from Melbourne’s First Person Consulting (FPC). We had a fun and free‑flowing conversation about how I stumbled into evaluation, my work in economic analysis, how rubrics fit into the picture, Cubist Evaluation, and of course, Value for Investment. I’m re-sharing it here for you to enjoy.
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Matt and Tenille, thanks for having me!
About the It Depends Podcast
It Depends is a new, regular series discussing questions with no clear answers. It's designed for decision-makers, evaluators, systems thinkers, and anyone else tackling complex challenges. You can listen wherever you get your podcasts, including direct from Podbean, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the FPC website homepage.
Also check out their chats with:
Eleanor Williams, Managing Director of the Australian Centre for Evaluation, in a wide-ranging and thoughtful conversation on evidence, ethics, and embedding evaluation in public policy
Kim Grey and Ruth Nicholls, co-convenors of the 2025 Australian Evaluation Conference in Canberra about what’s in store for us next week
Dr. Skye Trudgett, a proud First Nations woman and CEO of Kowa, on putting Indigenous data sovereignty into practice
Dr. John Gargani, exploring the intersections of design, evaluation, and scaling impact.
Coming up, they have guests covering place-based approaches, complexity in co-design, storytelling and social change, non-experimental methods, and systems design and evaluation. So stay tuned!
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